Feels Good To Let Go…

Whew. I am feeling overwhelmed by the crazy amounts of reading I have done in the past week revolving around Dan Kimball’s blog, and Neil Cole/Alan Hirsch and many others response to it. If you are unfamiliar with these conversations that is not a bad thing. It is basically a bunch of guys discussing…debating, etc. how to “do” church, that their way of “doing” church is better, and seemingly defending the way they do things. (Not all. Many of the guys have stayed very chill, and much of the conversation has been healthy-a few undeserved jabs here and there)

I started following the conversations that erupted in the comments sections and have finally stopped participating today. I can’t say I have much to add. Everyone seems to have their mind made up. Everyone has their strong, and solid points that prove this way or that. I feel no need give a long explanation here. I also have no energy left to try and convince any Christians why we (Me, my wife, our community, our organization-“Intentional Gatherings”)  do things the way we do. I could spend the next hour writing an elaborate response in order to try and convince other Christians….or I could go spend some time with one of the disciples in our community, or our next door neighbor who doesn’t know Jesus….It “Feels Good To Let Go”. Anyhow, this statement by Frost pretty much sums up how I feel:

“Our christology should lead to our missiology which in turn will lead to our ecclesiology. In other words, the way we understand the gospels and the character of God revealed to us in Jesus will affect our way of thinking about our mission in the world. If we get our christology right, it will lead to a right missiology. If we engage missionally in a godly fashion, issues such as how to ‘do’ church (ecclesiology) will take care of themselves.” -Michale Frost-

I’ve posted on this topic before. Christ called us to go and make disciples, not plant churches. He also did not call us to, or even suggest that we “go to church”. He sure as HELL did not intend for us to lose sight of making disciples by getting distracted debating with other believers “how to do church”. If we are making disciples then communities of faith should be naturally birthing. (Read the book “Church Planting Movements“, or any of the previous posts I’ve written about the book)

Also, I would encourage ALL of you who are actively pursuing this conversation through the blogs, and comment sections to visit Neil Cole’s blog if you haven’t already. Start at “Misguided Misgivings 1″. They are all very short. Dan and Neil get into a very healthy discussion in the comments section. Read those. They are very informative, and answer MANY of the questions brought up throughout the various posts.


Shapevine.com, Biblical Seminary, & Sharp Minds…

I had the wonderful privilege of spending a few days with Morgan in Philadelphia last week. We were at Biblical Theological Seminary with the shapevine.com team shooting video of a conference that B.T.S. was hosting. The footage will be edited, and packaged into a wonderful training tool for missional leaders. Click Here to see some information about the conference including the schedule and speakers.

One of most beneficial parts of the weekend was a round table discussion that I was asked to video. Lance Ford, founder of shapevine.com, interviewed Scot McKnight, Brian McLaren, Tim Keel, Darrell Guder, and John Franke about their thoughts on important issues regarding the church in America, and it’s mission. It was very difficult for me to focus on filming this discussion. I kept getting distracted by the profound things I was hearing, and will probably have to edit out several “amen’s!” & “come on’s!” & “that’s right’s!” I snuck out my phone during the interview and got a couple pictures…

From left: Brian McLaren, John Franke, & Scot Mcknight

From left: Scot Mcknight, Darrell Guder, & Tim Keel